Amber: I was obviously going to like a Martian Manhunter centric episode. The parallel between J’onn and Kara was awesome and really well done. The fact that she was able to get through to him and stop him from killing the white martian without using her powers was awesome. I’m excited to see his relationship with the Danver’s grow and continue to be cute as hell.
Molly: I am deeply loving the friendship/comradery/support between Alex, Kara, and J’onn. Their team meetings this episode were the best part and definitely trump anything that’s happened so far with Kara, Winn, and James as Team Supergirl.
Amber: Kinda hating Winn at the moment. Like Kara appears to be your only friend and you’re just being a raging Dick because she doesn’t like you back? I want to get away from this plotline so badly.
I didn’t hate Adam Forrester! He even kind of makes a believable love interest. Too bad Kara is in love with his mother. SuperCat forever! And it’s not even because I love the ship name (I really do) Kara literally meddles in Cat’s life. THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.
Molly: I assume Adam will be around for a few episodes and after that they can trot him out whenever they want (I’d love to see his character duet with Cat in the musical episode I fully expect) and I’m happy with that. It’s not exactly surprising they have chemistry and anything that breaks her out of the most boring love triangle ever created is a win in my book.
Amber: Next week’s episode is titled Bizarro, so I’m assuming Maxwell (I’m sorry I meant Trashwell) Lord created a Supergirl Bizarro that we saw at the end of this episode. Which is….fine. It’s a pretty big deviation from comic canon, but I’ll live. I’m excited for it anyway.
Molly: I am in total support of this fandom dubbing him Trashwell. It’s perfect.
Amber: LET IRIS WEST BE ANGRY. LET CAITILIN SNOW BE SAD ABOUT SHIT. We mentioned both Eddie and Ronnie this episode pretty casually. I think this one of two times Iris has talked about her DEAD fiance this season and I don’t feel like she’s gotten to properly deal with shit. Iris gets pissed, that’s her thing, let her be pissed! She can have the forgiveness moment with her mom, but give it some build up. Let Caitlin and Iris be real characters who have to deal with their shit.
Molly: Iris talks about how she’s moved past her anger with her mom. But we didn’t see that. Though since she forgave Joe for the egregious crime of pretending her mom was dead in about 15 seconds, maybe that’s all it took. Barry has visibly carried all his pain with him through most episodes this season, but Caitlin and Iris barely get a chance to feel anything before they have to move on. I’m tired. If The Flash doesn’t start letting its women be people soon, my patience will run out.
Amber: I sort of finally got answers to my timeline issues from episode one, but I don’t feel totally satisfied? But this gave them a good way to keep Reserve Flash as a recurring character without having to resurrect anyone.
Molly: I think just an attempt is supposed to be good enough, but it sure didn’t make a lot of sense, particularly factoring in that Legends of Tomorrow doesn’t seem to be following all the same time travel rules, but I’ll live with it. I just really love time travel.
Amber: I really hope Earth 2 Harrison Wells sticks around because he and Cisco are really cute together.
Molly: I was concerned that Tom Cavanaugh’s continued presence this season would feel forced, but I have to agree, it’s been really enjoyable to watch, particularly, as you say, with Cisco.
Amber: ALSO HOW CUTE IS WALLY?
Molly: I was happier this time around with Wally even though *grumbles about how he gets to be mad when Iris doesn’t*
Amber: My favorite line of the episode was: “Have you seen Barry run? He waddles like a slow ass duck.” The West family is so great.
Molly: I doubt this is the very last we ever see of Patty Spivot, but I imagine she won’t be around much, at least for a while, and I’ll miss her, even if some of their relationship was more tell than show (a problem, I’ll casually mention, that Cat Grant’s character as a whole tends to have).
Amber: Alright, I have a lot to say. And it’s all about Felicity. I’m gonna get this out of the way quickly: Overwatch is a dumb name. But I’m kinda glad she’s not Oracle. Felicity deserves to be her own character. I am so happy they gave her this episode to deal with her shit. I think having Goth Felicity show up was amazing. My hope is that Arrow continues to give Felicity room to deal with this major change and give this the attention it deserves. But this was a good episode for Felicity and I’m pretty happy with it. But, seriously, Overwatch is a fucking stupid name. But what we saw in this episode proves what we all know to be true about her: Felicity Smoak is a badass and she’s strong as hell.
Molly: At first, I thought he said Omniwatch, which I also thought was a terrible name, but Overwatch is even worse. Here’s hoping it’s a temporary name like The Hood. Though I did think it was a nice touch that Felicity was reading about the Overlook Hotel before being dubbed Overwatch herself.
This episode did right by Felicity, which is what she deserved here. I thought that bringing in her past to talk about her future was an excellent choice.
I’m concerned about her being cured too fast (and really, I don’t want her cured at all, especially not magically; Barbara being cured is my problem with the otherwise-excellent currently running Batgirl series), but I suppose that’s a problem to deal with if it happens.
Amber: Also, she and Oliver are so cute it makes me honestly sick.
“I was thinking ‘The Oracle’ but it’s taken,” GOD BLESS YOU ARROW WRITERS. This gives us the possibility of an Arrow-verse Barbara Gordon!!!!!! I know it might never happen…..but I want it so bad.
Molly: I would love to see Felicity go to HackerCon and meet Barbara Gordon. And Caleb Rivers because we all know Spencer Hastings is really the Arrow.
Amber: Diggle using what he learned from Felicity is the only thing I remember from the Shadow Spiral plot line. Did other things happen this episode??
Molly: Well, it wasn’t just Black Women Dying week on The Flash, the Arrow took up the torch as well.
In better news, Dig’s brother got to meet baby Sara and while I am now and forever sore about Sara not having a special moment meeting Sara, this was pretty cute and seems like a step toward integrating Andy into the show in an interesting way.
LEGENDS OF TOMORROW
Molly: So, first of all, fuck you, Hawkman.
Amber: It’s in bad taste to talk about the dead that way. But for real, I knew he would be an early casualty…I just didn’t think it would be in the second episode? Anyway, it makes a good rallying point for the team.
Molly: I actually wrote that before he died, but I’m also not sorry he’s dead because I really didn’t like him this episode. I did like that his death brought out Leonard’s staunch loyalty.
Amber: Let’s talk about how much Leonard Snart wants to be a good guy while actively denying that he’s trying to do that. He makes fun of Ray (Molly adds: Raymond) for wanting to save the world and he’s the one that’s like, “Yeah, let’s help save the future and avenge this dude we just met.”
Also, I didn’t think I would like Heat Wave, but I kinda love him. He’s always carrying people around and is super sassy. Plus I think he really loves Leonard.
Molly: I was a big fan of Leonard swanning all over the place, reveling in bossing around a bunch of heroes because crime is first nature to him. When I heard Captain Cold was slated to be a Legend of Tomorrow, my reaction was, “Oh, sure, that’ll work for me,” but I didn’t expect him to rapidly become one of my favorite characters in the DC TV universe. I kind of want to be his best friend now. I could humor him that suuuuuuuuure, he’s definitely not wanting to be a hero at allllllllllllll while in fact helping him be a hero.
I concur that Heat Wave is turning out to be far more enjoyable than he ever was on The Flash.
Amber: Sara, as always, was fantastic. Like I don’t have anything else to say because every time she’s on screen it’s amazing. “Y’all have a lovely evening.”
Molly: Nine (er, eight now) is a lot of main characters to have, so we haven’t gotten to delve deep with Sara yet, but I don’t mind waiting. Her presence just adds so much, both in fighting (she hit someone with a bong) and as a teammate (her giggling with Jefferson about young Martin was fun).
As for those fight scenes, an awful lot is always going on. I thought the direction was solid in following what each person was doing in a fight, but boy, it’s a lot to take in at once.
I’m glad that this show is living up to what I hoped it would be. The team aspect is really strong so far (awww, Rip even called them his friends in the opening voiceover). The gravity of taking down Savage is never forgotten, but it’s ultimately a fun romp across time and space, complete with fun outfits. I mean, look how great she looks (even if I couldn’t get a remotely good screencap)…